In this specific case, Heart has had numerous instances, where people have brought up problems with him, Pinkie and Kelly being 2 who have voiced(and rightfully so) huge issues with his actions very recently, and I don't know of anyone in the clan(though, there's bound to be SOMEONE given he's still in it) who actually thinks he should still be here with everything he's done. I agree that banning him out of the blue was wrong, but it still brings up the huge issue of why nothing has been done about him in past instances. This "make a post" defense fails, because I've seen numerous posts that have been made. From me, Kelly, Pinkie and even going quite a ways back, Random posted something about it, and that's just off the top of my head. I'm sure if I went through the forum I'd find a lot of posts.
Only thing that has ever been done to "punish" Heart is he's gotten demoted. And with the stuff he's done, he should have been banned from here, TS and every game server we run now and in the future permanently.
The management of the clan is responsible for dealing out punishment. If they decide his punishment should be being demoted, so be it. That's an issue with management, which like Beloved Heartless, if people see it as a problem, should be brought up and discussed with them. I'd hate to think what a clan would be like if they let their members permanently ban other members based on their own feelings towards that member, regardless of the action the clan's management has already deemed appropriate. As I said before, he may very well deserve to be banned forever. I'll admit that I was skeptical about him ever even joining years and years ago. But to allow any single clan member to make that carry out such a punishment with no authority from the clan's governing body, is to set a precedent that essentially gives any and every member the freedom to administrate the clan's resources however they see fit, without regard for established rules and processes, and worst of all, regardless of whether or not it's a negative act against a clanmate.
Let's get one thing clear. Beloved Heartless' behavior is an entirely different issue, albeit one that should certainly be taken seriously. The real issue here, at this moment, is the massive abuse of authority that took place in banning him. Don't let yourself get confused, they are two very separate issues. If I were still in the clan, I would be pushing for discussion and review of Heart's behavior, as well as strict punishment for Gauntlet, for the action that he took against Heart. No offense, Gauntlet.
So that's my view as a former figure of authority, and a seeker of truth, justice, and blah blah blah.
To be honest though, the main reason I left the clan years ago was because of a member that just couldn't deal with another members sense of humor, and got way to serious about it. While I admit, I haven't been around to see Heart's recent activity, I know how warped his sense of humor is, and always just took his antics with a grain of salt. Not once when I was still in the clan did he ever directly cross any lines. Sure, his behavior made some people uncomfortable, but not everyone meshes with his sense of humor, and some people are more uptight than others. You should see the stuff that Abz, Knome, PK and I used to share with each other privately on TS back in the day. I guarantee that some of it crosses lines that Beloved Heartless has never come near. But we were smart enough to keep it to ourselves, knowing that we all had a good sense of humor, and thick skin, and would not be offended by such things. Some people just can't handle what Beloved Heartless find amusing, just as they wouldn't have been able to handle what we used to find amusing amongst ourselves. The only real difference is that Heart isn't afraid to share his sense of humor with anyone and everyone. ...and to be honest, I find that amusing in itself.
What really concerns me, is that I'm hearing claims like "he's a pedo" in this thread. Has he posted kiddie porn? Has he talked about having sex with children in a serious manner? Has he done anything to justify such a heinous accusation? Or is he just being called that because you don't like him, and you think he's a freak? When people go around saying those kinds of things about people as jokes or exaggerations all the time, it's hard to take the claims seriously. It's essentially the "crying wolf" scenario. If you mean it, present the evidence, and good riddance to him. If you don't, stop making false accusations of such a serious nature. If I thought for one second there was a serious pedophile in BC while I was here, I would have gathered enough evidence to turn them into the police without thinking twice about it.
